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Post by Head Righter on Mar 6, 2024 22:25:00 GMT 10
Well done for making it to a Tribe Swap where you now get to play with people you may or may not have already met anyway! Just another day in The Goes Wrong ORG, but perhaps a quieter one... for now... 7. Tell us about that Tribal Council! What was your role in saying tootles to Tootles? And how did the Rooms format impact the course of the round? 9. How did you leave things with each of the remaining Team Harris players? To what extent would you trust them, or want to work together with them in the future? 5. Did you follow, interfere, or even pay attention to anything beyond your own Tribe last round? If so, what did you make of the events on Team Rigg and Team Suchet? And did anyone or anything stand out to you in your Rooms as particularly interesting, or important moving forward? 8. Give us your first impressions of your new Tribe! Who are you PMing for the first time and what do you think of them? Do you have any plans yet for how to play with (or around) the mystery, teensy Voting Rooms format?
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Post by Chris as Prince Richard on Mar 7, 2024 9:55:45 GMT 10
I just came here to say that I feel like Valerie is Kez and if that’s the case I am all for it!!
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Post by Chris as Prince Richard on Mar 8, 2024 9:10:37 GMT 10
Hooray…. I made the tribe swap!! I am a little behind on updating my life so enjoy..
So as for the last tribal council… it went exactly as I hoped and expected… although certainly not without a bit of stress and anxiety. I only had 1 connection to Tootles from my own team… and I think someone with their mouth sewn shut would talk more than she does. Robert Shawcroft’s room didn’t really hold much importance for me except to see his last minute scramble in action.. which was quite fascinating. On the other hand… Robert the Trumpeter’s room allowed me to get quite close quite quickly to Scrooge and Trumpeter.. which was incredible.. and they were able to help me with the vote by confirming that Camille was voting Tootles.
As for Camille… I still don’t know whether 100% trust her or not. Isobel’s message makes it sound like she also strongly suspects Camille was playing both sides.. and part of me wonders if the only reason she voted with me to get Tootles out was because Trevor came back and it would tie.. and we didn’t know the value of votes we each held. In any case, I knew I was going to be the other side’s votes… I mean it’s hard being a prince and not having people obsessed with you.. right? I did not get to see Mick’s vote which was a shame.. as it would have been illuminating to the inner workings of the Team Harris tribe. But what I know now is that I can trust Isobel fully and potentiall Trevor.. and the rest.. we will see.
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Post by Chris as Prince Richard on Mar 8, 2024 9:23:16 GMT 10
And for now for what’s currently happeneing..
So the Defence team honestly appears quite stacked in every sense.. I mean we have David.. Valerie.. Joe.. Me… Isobel.. Diana.. RObert.. and Trevor. Look at the material! Being put with Isobel is honestly a godsend.. because her excellent work in the rooms has been SUCH an asset to my game. She really has been super helpful to me and I can’t be grateful enough. In saying that, I do actually think my work over the past 24 hours evens up to hers in a social game sense, and I will explain in a sense.
So coming into this tribe, Isobel and I are kind of sitting pretty in the middle, like 2 Royals watching Tennis. On the one hand… we have the Team Harris connection with Trevor. Trevor has certainly been a very interesting character to say the least. I think he trusts me the most out of everyone.. at least I really hope so. The challenge thus far with him has been to patch up things with Isobel since she was part of his vote-out… and I think we managed that… basically hiring a big yellow bus and driving it right over Mick and Camille… we just shifted all the blame to them because who better to shift blame on then people who can’t defend themselves. Then there’s Robert.. who ducked his head right out like an ostrich trying to save Shawcroft.. and seemed to have a strained relationship with Diana. As for now though.. I think they are all fixed.. which is certainly interesting to note moving forward.
On the ‘other side’ (Abasically the greens).. we have David.. who is cool.. but giving big player and not afraid to show it vibes. I like him so far but so does everyone, and when you make an alliance suggestion of 6 to one person but not to another (Me) it certainly does not do much for my trust of him. I am not sure how to go about him moving forward.. but I do know I don’t see him as a long term ally. Valerie was cool but nothing special at the start… until I started leaning into her schtick and then by the end of the day she was promising she wouldn’t vote me out in a room with me.. which was total bullshit but I appreciated the gesture. Out of the 3 greens, I really enjoyed Joe and we certainly get along the best. It seems I am connecting really well with the outsiders and underdogs while Isobel connects between with the HBICs and over dogs, funny enough. I am hopeful he makes it through this round as I would love to work with him moving forward. There’s also Diana.. who.. I can just say I fully understand the hype and why she is so influential.. because she had no reason making me feel like her ally after one message and zero interaction beforehand.
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Post by Chris as Prince Richard on Mar 8, 2024 9:31:53 GMT 10
But yes so I’ve basically done a great job connecting with basically everyone on the tribe.. ready for these rooms.. and now here we are.
So looking at it.. I think I’m the swing vote? Obviously, I have some sort of trust with Trevor that I’ve been trying to build.. and so it’s great to see that effort hopefully bear fruit. He also mentioned that DIana would be a probable first vote in a full tribe vote.. so it would be very strange if he turned his back on me and randomly voted with Diana.. I would feel like I belong in the Matrix or something. Then… I seem to have built the foundation of a strong working relationship with DIana in just 3 messages overall.. which is the quickest a bond has developed between me and someone.. even for my standard. Her message also sort of implied that she was looking to me more then Trevor as the vote she would need… and so I hope I am in the middle.. although I certainly am not going to assume anything until I see Trevor’s response.
Strategically.. it’s a tricky spot to be in. I think my best play is to remove Diana… as she is a HBIC that is going to be incredibly difficult to remove later down the track, and removing her and keeping Trevor sort of gives me a little more power individually. On the other hand… I don’t think as an ally… Trevor is going to be as helpful to me as Diana.. as it’s obviosu his style doesn’t seem to mesh with what I think will be the powerhouses of the game such as Isobel, Camille, Diana, David etc. If I could build a serious bond with Diana then she could be a real asset to me.. but looking at who my closest allies are… I’m just not sure I see her fitting my game plans overall, nor do I think I will actually need her in future.. as I have built a lot of strong bonds on orange and green already.
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Post by Chris as Prince Richard on Mar 8, 2024 23:15:49 GMT 10
FUCK I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO
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Post by Chris as Prince Richard on Mar 8, 2024 23:38:53 GMT 10
So first of all I am confident I am the actual swing vote here between Diana and Trevor here… but man this is hard… like I would rather pull out my own teeth here…
I am so fucking confused by Trevor. In my very first message in the lobby I basically told Diana it was unlikely I’d vote with her as Trevor and I trust each other.. and instead of reaffirming and reciprocating that trust with me.. his entire first message is directed toward Diana in a somewhat defensive manner… as if he was annoyed he was associated with me as pair.. which he should be honoured to be associated to royalty like me! So then naturally.. ,my takeaway from his response is that he may not actually trust me as much as I thought.. or otherwise he’d have jumped at voting Diana. So I ask Diana to plead her case… and now that she directs her case at me.. Trevor is back peddling and telling me it’s a bad move to vote with him based off a really misguided read of the dynamics. He truly has no idea of the amount of bonds I built so quickly.
The other thing he said that is a red flag for me was that ‘we’d both make a great addition to the alliance of the tribe’.. which implies that he’s competing with me for a spot in whatever alliance is made on the Defence Team. I honestly think he was trying to feelers for ditching me and working with Diana.. and now that she’s basically completely ignored him and turned to me as the ally she wants.. is now trying to warn me it’s a bad move to keep her… fuck off.
In terms of the vote.. it’s tough. I am essentially choosing my entire path forward through this game with this vote.. which sounds dramatic at first but I think it is true? I feel like the game is sort of getting split into overdogs/socialites (The camp I think I’ve now entered with my strong performance on the swap tribe) and the underdogs. With Diana as the former and Trevor as the latter.. this is the decision I have to make. I see the pros and cons to both quite clearly.
Trevor: Pros - Loyal to me Cons- May betray me or alliance in future (I am worried if we reunite with Camille and we happen to want to work together he may betray us.. or even Isobel at that), not socially connected and so not much of an asset , gives me a perception as a ‘pair’ apparently
Diana Pros - Incredibly socially connected, big player (shield), will be loyal, wants to work with Isobel, likely the move Isobel would prefer to make Cons - Barely know her, forces me to betray a loyal ally, could give me a perception as a big/unloyal player, I also can’t actually trust her properly yet
Overall I’m leaning toward keeping Diana, who just seems like a safer bet to play with moving forward. She will certainly be a tough player to get out in the future, but my concern is that playing with Trevor and getting Diana kind of forces a majority underdog alliance that looks something like me/Trevor/Isobel/Joe/Robert, and that is something Isobel and I will be the figureheads of.. which is not good for us. Whereas with Diana, I am much more concealed in a much more heavy-hitter alliance which could look something like David/Diana/Isobel/Valerie/Me. Would I have full control here? No.. but do I need full control just yet.. no. And I think Isobel and I would have more pull then what it seems with that group as well, as I believe Diana is more loyal to Isobel and I should she make it through. My other thought is that there is no gurentee that Robert/Joe survive this, and they are in fact not as likely to survive in my opinion. And so if they leave.. then I’m kind of stuck with Trevor with no option for a coup from the underdogs, and I can’t imagine the greens would want to vote with Trevor and I when we voted out Diana.. an orange.
Basically… I’m already feeling the pressure of already being connected in some way to all players.. and having to make strategic decisions that feel like splitting hairs.
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Post by Chris as Prince Richard on Mar 9, 2024 10:35:38 GMT 10
This actually sucks, I feel like shit in a toilet right now
After really really thinking about it… I think I have decided to keep Diana in the game. She could be completely bulshitting me right now… but given the length and content of her messages, I actually think she’s 100% telling me the truth right now? Or at least like 90%, I’m sure there are a few things she’s twisting or trying to make bigger than they are. What I keep coming back to with her is that she’d be a much more useful ally then Trevor would, as Trevor only has me, Robert, and sort of Isobel I feel, and so there isn’t much I can really do with him. Whereas having Isobel and Diana on both sides of me is like 2 bodyguards to protect their esteemed prince. Diana will provide me so many more pathways forward, even if she will become the bigger threat and difficult to get out down the track. Also.. Trevor’s reasoning about me being on the outside is one I don’t necessarily believe.. he could be right.. but again.. I’m trying to set it up to have David, Diana and Isobel as the big 3 threats and for them to be my shields. If I pick Trevor, I feel like I’m making Isobel and I bigger threats then what would be ideal for this point in the game.
I also can’t get past Trevor directing his campaigning toward Diana over me, it just isn’t sitting right. I can’t help but feel like none of this discussion would have even happened had Trevor jsut said something along the lines of trust toward me which is why he probably wil vote out Diana, which is basically what I did. There is potential that he misunderstood me or there was miscommunication… but it just seems so strange that he was trying to compete with me in Diana’s mind as a good ally in his own right.. and is now trying to backpeddle and tell me it would be a mistake to vote him out.
This vote really reminds me of the Joey vote in all stars.. where I feel like I’m having to make a critical decision when I’m lacking a lot of information, which in this case I haven’t been able to talk to either of them much in PMs and I also worry that some of the logic I am using is completely unfair toward Trevor or completely biased toward Diana. I feel terrible.. since I think I have concretely decided I am keeping Diana, but my trust in Trevor has really taken a hit after not reciprocating my trust back to him, in fact he still hasn’t said anything about trusting me.
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Post by Chris as Prince Richard on Mar 9, 2024 11:07:40 GMT 10
I’m now having second thoughts about keeping Diana… I mean is it stupid to just vote out a loyal ally? Would I be undercutting my own agency further into the game by voting out Trevor over Diana. I’m really struggling with this decision. Diana could be just as loyal as Trevor.. but I’m also now worrying I will just be undercutting some of the power I’ve built for myself by just voting Trevor out like this. I’m really not sure how I move forward here, I hate this decision so much. But in saying that.. I feel like keeping Diana would be an incredible show of my own agency. AHHHH
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Post by Chris as Prince Richard on Mar 9, 2024 11:25:28 GMT 10
FUCK WHY IS THIS SO HARD
I think I’m back to keeping Diana.. what I’ve realised is that in a game as unpredictable as this I really just can’t drive myself crazy trying to make the right strategic choice. I feel like I’m already starting to look like I’m wavering and indecisive and that is one thing I can’t have so I must pull the trigger now. At the end of the day, I just know that Diana is going to be a more helpful ally, and will hopefully reduce my threat level compared to Trevor, and that is my criteria for a good ally at the moment. Unfortunately, neither of them meet the criteria for an exact ally I’m looking for, which is why I’m struggling so much. I also think Diana will be loyal to me, and that is a risk I am going to take.
This is just so brutal for Trevor and I feel like actual shit about it
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Post by Chris as Prince Richard on Mar 10, 2024 10:00:09 GMT 10
I’m so so sorry hosts that was a real struggle and then I was busy with a birthday last night.. don’t hate me
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Post by Chris as Prince Richard on Mar 10, 2024 15:30:45 GMT 10
Welp.. the decision has been made.
To say I feel shit about it is an understatement… not only because I betrayed someone I was loyal to, but because I’m worried I may have shot myself in the foot with this the whole time. In my head I keep playing back some of the awful decisions I made in Tibet.. and I worry I’m making the same mistakes trusting the wrong people. I guess what I can say.. is that I really felt like I could trust Diana. The way she wrote her messages… I really felt I could trust her. I could be completely wrong and I would be super disappointed if she tricked me….but my gut was telling me to trust her.
I suppose this whole decision came down to a gut feeling.. and i guess you gotta trust your gut? The way I am trying to look at it is that Trevor was better for my short term game but could have closed many doors for me… whereas Diana is better for my long-term game and could open doors for me. I think she represents a high risk high reward sorta situation.. .where I could easily have shot myself in the foot here short term.. but long term she could be an amazing ally to have. And it is true for sure that Trevor did not make me feel comfortable in that thread at ALL. He could have easily declared his intent to vote Diana/loyalty to me much earlier if he was truly that loyal, but instead made no mention of that and tried to appeal to Diana first.. saying he ‘wasn’t just a number.’. I am sure Diana capitalised on that as well by emphasising that she really felt an affinity towards me, which I do believe because we certainly got along well in those chats.
Anyway.. we’ll see what happens. This decision truly was one of those gut feelings, and I certainly recognise the major risk I’m taking with this decision. Honestly.. it was SUCH a shit situation because Trevor was someone I trusted but didn’t feel that close to, and Diana was someone I felt I could REALLY get close to but just didn’t have enough time to build trust with… so it’s sort of like picking 2 people that have opposite traits? The hosts could definitely be screaming for me to pick the player that I was already aligned with.. but I just did not get the sense that he was that loyal to me to be honest.. and I certainly think he was going to go after Isobel and Camille after a short time.. which would have been a headache for me. And with Diana, she was just someone I could feel myself actually really gelling with as an ally, whereas Trevor felt moreso as an ally out of necessity, if that makes sense. I guess I’m just trying to justify this in a way that makes sense in my head in case the hosts are all calling me stupid, but I guess we’ll see.
I think my biggest challenge now will be explaining to everyone what just happened because this certainly will have blindsided the entire game and I don’t think anyone would have expected this. My explanation to everyone will be that Trevor always felt more like an ally out of necessity, and I couldn’t help feel like he didn’t trust me as much as it seemed, which was made evident by his strange messages in the thread. Hopefully that does the trick, although I of course would have to mention that Diana and I have clicked quite well, or otherwise people will get super suspicious and correctly assume I am hiding something.
But we will see what happens, I hope this is the right decision, but in any case… all I can say is I just followed my gut feeling.
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