|
|
Post by Head Righter on Apr 9, 2024 3:33:02 GMT 10
The Fourth and most Culpable Critic is:
 I now invite Dennis as Deer Head to confound address the Nominated Actors. |
|
|
|
Post by Dennis as Deer Head on Apr 9, 2024 12:59:13 GMT 10
I've forgotten what I just read in the speeches, and how this actually works. But I've been prodded into coming into this thread.
So
GET OUT!
No, not that line? It's my only one in this play! Too bad I'm using it for a pointless question.
I know two of you already skipped one of the episodes, so none of you should therefore be using episode 1 as the answer to this.
If you were to have been about to use a get out (of jail) free card this game, which format would you have skipped? How do you feel that the rest of the game would have coped with your absence from such an episode?
|
|
|
|
Post by Robert as Irrelevant Trumpeter on Apr 9, 2024 13:26:52 GMT 10
Skipping a round? Well skipping a round involved skipping 3 things:
1. The format
2. The vote
3. The challenge
Or in some cases, these things were the same, some times some of these didn't exist. My answer depends slightly, but I've narrowed it down to these three rounds depending on the criteria. Hopefully writing these will help me decide on an answer.
1. The format
This is the hardest one for me to choose, because I really enjoyed the constantly shifting format, especially the episodes like the Prison and the Ocean Life game where we stepped outside Survivor completely. The format I would skip would be the rooms round where we each played two characters. It felt a bit cheap that everyone ended up just saying who they were to gain safety, so this was the round I would skip purely for format reasons. As for what would've happened without me? Well I imagine the result would've been the same, as Diana would've targeted Wimblegate regardless, however the room with Wimblegate and Scrooge probably wouldn't have happened.
2. The vote
However I would have wanted to skip the format and vote of the final round if I could. Again, it was my weakest round in terms of safety, and if I needed a round to be safe, Round 14 would be it. The other half of this is that I didn't want to have to choose between Scrooge and Diana. They were two of my closest allies and I would've much preferred not being there at all. If I wasn't there and it was a simple vote between the three of them, I think Suchet would've gone with Scrooge to the end, but only those three know for sure.
3. The challenge
Definitely the Round 7 challenge (which was the won you won). Not only did I screw up my chances to compete by not specifying what I was competing for, but the challenge just felt boring to me compared to the others (since we aren't allowed to choose Round 1). Obviously I would still want to be in the round for this one, but the challenge was definitely the low point. If I wasn't in Round 7 however, I think the result would've been the same. In the end I was still in the middle with Shawcroft and Scrooge, and the difference between Scrooge being exempt or I being exempt was trivial.
All in all, I would definitely use a get out of jail free card on Round 14. For the safety, and the excemption from needing to choose between close allies, which is how I've been playing this entire game.
|
|
|
|
Post by Sir David Suchet as Narrator on Apr 9, 2024 14:50:04 GMT 10
Hey Deer Head, good to see you again my dear... um head!
I think that my husband has answered this question in a smart manner in splitting the rounds into their different phases, so I won't copy him and do the same and try to stick to one round in full.
I loved fish game. I loved the rules of it. And I loved it even more in the microcosm of a survivor like ORG where winning the fish game meant little if it destroyed relationships you had in the larger competition. I had an easy role in some ways, being the Shark. But equally I found it really difficult to navigate the waters of the round (see what I did there) because as tier 2 predator I had so much control as to how the fish game ended and who would succeed and who wouldn't. Going into that round I felt that I was really socially connected but I felt slightly exposed having just lost an amazing ally in Skye, so I wanted to ensure I could keep my other connections safe. At the time that specifically included Diana, Scrooge, Isobel and Max. However, the other difficulty was the way we had geared up the Defence to work together (which I was a large part of) so I didn't feel it was right to take them out over my other closer allies on the Prosecution, even though I wanted to.
It was a very difficult round for me in terms of ensuring I didn't look like a traitor to the Defence strong narrative while trying to remain loyal to those I wanted to work with from the Prosecution. With Scrooge in particular it was difficult as he and I were in contact that whole game (I think he and I sent each other half of our MPs) and he had a clear strategy to survive (he eats Shawcroft round 3, I don't eat round 3, Margaret goes to ocean round 4, I eat Trumpet or Richard round 4) but it would have required me betray the 'Defence' and really expose my closeness to Scrooge.
This was also why I was having such a difficult time in round 2 where I was debating about eating Max the Croc or Richard, because I knew Croc was Scrooge's animal pal and he could swim back to Scrooge to save Scrooge at any point plus I adored Max and wanted to work with him, but eating anyone else (once Shawcroft confirmed he was the Octopus and therefore locked Plate in as the Pufferfish) was betraying the 'Defence'.
The only round of the fish game that was actually 'easy' for me was the first round where I just ate you, DH, with whom I had no relationship at that point and noting you were on the Prosecution. And then it wasn't even a bad thing as you had given yourself the Pilot Fish's win condition anyway so it suited you for me to eat you. I also tried to have some fun with it in that round as you may recall with the unzipping of teeth posts.
So while I enjoyed the game, it was very difficult to navigate in terms of my relationships and then I had to do some damage control with Scrooge thereafter who understood my actions but I think was still a little disappointed I didn't help him more.
The round then turned into the dragathlon which I covered in my opening, but I can restate here; I was not actually in danger of going home. To be clear on that, originally I thought Plate was going to drag me, especially given I spent the last round of the fish game cueing up his boot. So I was legitimately paranoid for a bit. People have commented on it and perhaps its not the best look, although I am not sure why the best player has to be cool, calm and collected 100% of the time but I do appreciate that one view people have on ORGs.
So I was paranoid initially. And I tried to get the vote off of Plate but no one was interested. So I went back to Plate and worked my arse off on rebuilding (more like building for the first time) our relationship. And I did this with just flat out honesty. I told him that I wanted him gone round 2 and the reasons for it. I thold him that I'd left him unread in round 3 because I didn't know what to say especially when I knew Joe was going to use knowledge is power to steal his shot in the dark. And I told him that as recently has 5 hours before I'd been actively arranging his boot in the fish game. And as I said in my opening, he confided in me that he wasn't going to drag me because it was too obvious and he wanted to do something more fun. But he also said 'he reserved his rights' to change his mind if I used that against him. So I didn't, I played along and kept up the paranoia and 'acceptance' that I was to be dragged, even though I wasn't.
And even though that was true, it still sucked because he was going to drag Diana. But then he couldn't even drag the safe fish which meant losing one of Croc, Scrooge or Izzy who were some my best allies in the game.
It was a rough round. I was conflicted with how best to approach the fish game given my role and my relationships, I looked like a paranoid mess (for part of it legitimately and part of it as a performance) and ultimately no matter the outcome I lost a great ally. I think I played the round the best I could, but I think it reflected well on me overall and if I could have have missed any round I think that would have been the best for me to do so or at least been allocated a more simpler fish role, where I didn't have to pick and choose between commitments and relationships.
|
|
|
|
Post by Aunt Diana Rigg as Narrator on Apr 10, 2024 16:41:00 GMT 10
Dennis, my deer! My deepest apologies for quite the delay in response to you, but for better or worse even in the final stretch my schedule is still shite but somehow I managed to do things in time in this game every round and make the end, shockingly enough. Since I truly wasn't sure the time zone mumbo jumbo always changing up would allow me to live life and play this, but I'd say it worked out!
Anyways, this is a wonderful question actually. I think I've touched on the round with Richard and how painstaking it was for me, but I am not going to say that's my answer. Because as much as I regret not just telling Richard the truth and being forthright, I would have felt as equally tortured fucking over Scrooge. It's really a mindfuck of a game like this, as I said because of the amount of time, planning and reliance we'd had on others, being removed from a round where my presence made the difference isn't one I'd want to avoid.
And without sounding like I'm kissing your ass or pandering, because I promise you I'm not. If I could have used a round skipper as it were, it would have been in Harper's Locket. Granted, that would fuck up the format and you'd be a single. But for the same of the answer, that's the honest truth of it. When I was told your survival made Robert and Scrooge furious and they demanded your head on a platter (Which is ironic, seeing as you just got it off the wall and back on a proper body) I was truly taken aback, as I knew you had no idea that they were very much against you and resented your immunity win. Which also was amusing, because I was rooting for the copy/paste design challenge to win in the Lost Boys forum, I thought it was genius and I thought Max actually may have done it, so he wouldn't have to technically use words. But when I heard the rants about you, then found out you submitted that c/p I was highly amused. I wished I thought of it, because it was brilliant.
My point though, is that this round was extremely difficult for me. As an esteemed actor, I did put on the show and pretended I didn't mind seeing you leave and said I'd play my part and I did. But I was literally dying inside. I remember you saying perhaps we didn't want the same things, and I told you that you might be surprised and we might. But we never really got into it, though I know we discussed Margaret/Annie as the couple to be divorced and no second option, I'm not sure if after Shawcroft became the focus or with your talks with Annie (Who I was told you were close to.) that you may have known about the plan to oust you? I asked Robert too if anyone told you, or if you were just blissfully unaware. I was thisclose SEVERAL times about just posting we were the main couple. But I didn't want to fuck with everyone else or have you react. The only solace I could take in that round having to keep that from you (And for no reason, since it was not like you could do anything which made me feel worse.) is that Scoorge set up a list of which marriages we'd vote to divorce, so I voted for ours meaning my actual vote was for Shawcroft and not you, I mean I still voted for us to be separated, but still.
I'm unsure if you voted for me? But if you did, it would help relieve some of my guilt, so I hope you did. Whatever the case, that's the round I'd rather not have dealt with if I could. Because even when people told me not to try too hard in the challenge, I said fuck it to that. And did everything I could to help, I posted, looked for anagram solvers, posted all the letters, tried to make sense. I also tried to do that maze several times, curse Robert for being a genius and solving it from the outside points to one another! I wish I thought of that!!
But yeah, just to get out of the guilt of a blindside I didn't feel comfortable with being part of, I wish I never had to deal with any of that or aid in your demise. As I said you were one of the first allies I had too on Team Rigg and prposed that you, Sandra, Robert and I stick together. Which is why I was so tortured in the Lodge when the night before the vote switched to Shawcroft from Max giving that option instead, I was all in since I felt voting you would upset Maragret and Robert, but evidently Robert wouldn't have minded? I don't know!
Anyways, thank you for the question, my deer. Now, it's time for me to GET OUT!!!!
|
|
